Good day:
Welcome aboard! I was an MS just up until a couple months ago...I know the thoughts that are going on inside right now! Take it easy & take it one day at a time! There are lots of stuff to learn!
Peace
Kool Jo
hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.
anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.
i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.
Good day:
Welcome aboard! I was an MS just up until a couple months ago...I know the thoughts that are going on inside right now! Take it easy & take it one day at a time! There are lots of stuff to learn!
Peace
Kool Jo
i really hate divorce.
it was my parents getting divorced that helped messed up my childhood.. part of why i came to conclude the jehovah's witnesses don't have the "spiritual paradise" they claim to is how many of their marriages end up in divorce.my parents i could dismiss as an exception to a general rule, but i could never understand how often it seemed to keep happening to lots of different people when the watchtower society teaches that divorce is wrong except in case of adultery.. but what really brought things home for me was this study by the pewforum on religion survey showing that even though jehovah's witness are less likely to be married than the general population, they're more likely to be divorced or separated.. http://religions.pewforum.org/.
they really have a nerve telling people in the jehovah's witnesses religion that they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage when they've done so little to protect jws who get married, and their children, from the extreme stress and conflict of divorce.. it's really messed up.. heck, even the catholics they're are always dumping on have a lower divorce/separation rate than the jws.. jw divorced/separated = 14%.
Great topic
As was mentioned before, some of the dubs are literally forced into marriages because they have to marry someone in the "truth". So even though they aren't ready for the responsibilities, they just go ahead with it.
I've seen people so desparate to get married, it amazes me. They're so full of it when they brag about how their marriages that last long ect...I met a couple (clients at work) who've been togther for 47 years and haven't stepped foot into a church
Before i knew TTATT, I did visit other KHall of folks who I knew...anytime I sat beside a sister I knew...I could see the faces looking over where I'm sitting "that brother Kool Jo must be interested in sister X"...."sister x-y-z found a nice brother"...blah blah blah
So many relationships are pre-mature because of this cult, hence the divorce rate!
Kool Jo
i am technically inactive.
i was just curious if there are many people on the inside.
are there any within bethel itself?
Stepped down from the role of MS recently...pretty successful fade thus far!
Kool Jo
does anyone ever feel this way when they see older family members (parents, grandparents etc) growing old or experiencing failing health?.
do you ever feel that you should be able to somehow keep them alive - and feel frustrated and hopeless that you can't?.
cedars.
As was mentioned....for those folks especially who've given their entire lives to the borg and not being able to fully enjoy their few years left...really makes me feel sad.
Peace
Kool Jo
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good day all...i havent posted in a while, but still reading some of the posts...been very busy at my job!.
Good day all…I haven’t posted in a while, but still reading some of the posts…been very busy at my job!
So as you know, my job requires some amount of traveling (another excuse I gave for stepping down as an MS a couple months ago). At one of the locations that my employer owns ( where I’m temporarily reassigned), there are few JW’s…magazines are laying around and are given out to other co-workers…only two persons at this location know that I’m somehow associated with the borg. We hardly communication though…plus I knew these two folks prior to knowing TTATT.
There is one of the young ladies who is a JW…she has a nice personality and extremely attractive. My interaction with the JW’s at my new location is very minimal, primarily work related conversations. The young lady I mentioned earlier (23) has a good sense of humor for a JW, so I do joke with her when I pass by her work station, but she doesn’t know my JW background. She takes her magazine folder with her to work and does street witnessing after work in the city. She gives literature to my coworkers and I’m sure that I’ll be receiving an memorial invitation from her…don’t know how to handle it when she asks me if I’m going to attend?
Her coworkers tease her at times for not having a BF ect…she tells them she’s waiting on a spiritual person blah blah blah…she laughs it off when they tease her, but I know deep down inside she feels odd at times. Even before I knew she was a JW, I was attracted to her, but I realize I have to keep things at a distance. I hope she’ll eventually be awakened, but I doubt it. She had quit her job to pioneer & learn ASL, but when reality hit her in the face, she re-applied and got back in the company. She’s a phenomenal employee and does very well with our clients and fellow employees.
Another JW whom I share office space with is always singing kingdom melodies or plays them on her PC…just makes me want to puke!!!
Other than that, my parents are out of the country for a couple months traveling & I haven’t been to FS nor meetings in months…so my fade is going great!
Peace
Kool Jo
good morning all,.
i have had the opportunity over the last couple of years to speak with a couple of jw's who had either attended the same congregation i did or were married to someone who to the same one.
for the record, i disassociated myself in 1992 due to being followed around by an elder or two who had heard that i had ray franz's "crisis of conscience" in my possession.
I chose a job that requires a lot of travel (within and outside my country)....this is good for my fade, but I've heard that "Bro Kool Jo doesn't love Jehovah that much if he chose to a job where's he away from spiritual activities"...
thank you for this forum.
thank you for your stories which helped wake me up from my delusion.
thank you for letting me join you.
Welcome aboard!
this question is primarily geared towards those that are "still in" or trying to "fade" like myself....now that you know the "truth about the truth"...if their is someone that knows you or your family are associated with jw's and ask you for your opinion of the religion or ask about studying with the jw's...how would you respond?.
my reason for asking is that a girl i knew for many years now (since childhood) was invited to the kh by her coworker...she knew that my family and i are jw's since childhood...she went to the meetings and stated how she's learnt something new and she got "love bombed"...she's a fanastic girl and don't want her sucked into this cult...if she asks me about my experience as a jw, i want to be honest with her, but if i tell her how i feel, she may go back to my parents or the coworker and spill the beans...how would you handle it?.
the second part of my query...we know that the wtbs bashes education...here's my situation....i got a college degree, i have a decent job for my age with possibility of further progression...there were many persons who were critical of me for attending college....saying how i could go to bethel, or pioneer or some other rubbish...now that college is done and you're working...you're ask to help out someone in the congregation financially...even the person who was critical of you...the person fell on hard times and needs a hand with their bills...would you assist this person out of the goodness of your heart, or would you abstain from helping because they were critical of you during college?.
This question is primarily geared towards those that are "still in" or trying to "fade" like myself....now that you know the "truth about the truth"...if their is someone that knows you or your family are associated with JW's and ask you for your opinion of the religion or ask about studying with the JW's...how would you respond?
My reason for asking is that a girl I knew for many years now (since childhood) was invited to the KH by her coworker...she knew that my family and I are JW's since childhood...she went to the meetings and stated how she's learnt something new and she got "love bombed"...she's a fanastic girl and don't want her sucked into this cult...if she asks me about my experience as a JW, I want to be honest with her, but if I tell her how I feel, she may go back to my parents or the coworker and spill the beans...how would you handle it?
The second part of my query...we know that the WTBS bashes education...here's my situation....I got a college degree, I have a decent job for my age with possibility of further progression...there were many persons who were critical of me for attending college....saying how I could go to bethel, or pioneer or some other rubbish...now that college is done and you're working...you're ask to help out someone in the congregation financially...even the person who was critical of you...the person fell on hard times and needs a hand with their bills...would you assist this person out of the goodness of your heart, or would you abstain from helping because they were critical of you during college?
Kool Jo
what did you decide to do?.
leave with a bang, trying to educate those around you before leaving?
perhaps writing letters to others forgiving/ asking for forgiveness.. or.
I'm still in the fading process...go to meetings (only sundays) a couple times a month...midweek meeting is non existent for me...no FS for over 5 months now, but still send in time...recently stepped down as an MS.
Peace
Kool Jo
was a jw for 40 years.
stopped attending 2010...resigned officially in 2011. still a little shell shocked but beginning to feel much better now.
awesome revelation....people in the world are not all that bad.
Welcome aboard!